View source for Cloud Waste / FinOps Discussion Group May 3rd 2021 11am. - 12 noon

== Introduction ==

Apr 22rd [https://www.stormforge.io/ Stormforge] gave a webinar [https://www.stormforge.io/event/cloud-waste-panel-discussion/ Solving Application Cloud Waste: A Panel Discussion]

Panelist were:

* Adrian Cockcroft - AWS VP Sustainability - [https://twitter.com/adrianco @adrianco]
* Matt Provo - Stormforge - [https://twitter.com/matthewprovo @matthewprovo]
* Cheryl Hung - CNCF - [https://twitter.com/oicheryl @oicheryl]
* Noah Abrahams - Stormforge/CNCF - [https://twitter.com/noah_abrahams @noah_abrahams]

Big Topics were:

* Cost control and attribution
* Scheduling work:
** Dev/QA gets turned off
** batch jobs run at "off peak times"
* ESG analysis
* Introducing FinOps
and
* FinOps v Devops

It was a panel discussion and it covered a lot of ground. I'd like to do a more open discussion to talk about what people are actucally doing out there and how.

To that End I'm reaching out to my network to organize a discussion May 3rd 2021 at 11am - 12 noon EST.

== Who Should attend? / Why should you attend? ==

* You are technical or non-technical and have been asked to '''account for cloud costs''' and maybe even you have done work to answer those questions.
* You are at the beginning of your cloud journey and are overwhelmed with all the things you need to learn and be responsible for. ( you need to hire robot to do the work for you. we want to learn about things you can do now to make your life easier later.)
* You are a business owner that is interested to know what is possible, and what people are '''actually doing''' to get a handle on IT resource consumption in the cloud.

== Agenda ==

I would like this to be small ~20 people tops such that we can do more individual interaction and be more interactive.

It's important to me that the talk is inclusive and I'll endeavour to create an open and inviting environment for folk who don't normal attend, including but not limited to Women, People of Colour, LGBTQ2S+, and any person who would otherwise be marginalized.

To that end it's possible that I fail at doing that and ask that if you do not feel welcome, please let me know how I might do that. I'm also doing work to determine who I might do that.

I'd like to be able to publish the findings publicly, anonymously as requested. I will assume that if no consent has been given to mention who spoke about what, that that will be omitted.

'''What is FinOps?'''
* Who knows about this already?
* Who is doing this but didn't know they were doing this?

What are the challenges in the field? What are the successes and progress that have been made?

* Petition Attendees
* How do we deal with these challenges?
** Mitigation
** Open issues
** ...

When it comes to cloud spending: What do you want to see? What does the business want to see?

What is the maturity model for this practice? Often it's not linear.

Where are you in maturity model?

'''What tools do you use?'''

* Commercial
* Vendor supplied ( GCP, Azure, AWS, etc )
* Open source or community driven.
* In house built

'''Commercial'''

* [https://cloudcheckr.com/ Cloudcheckr]
* Turbonomics
* ServiceNow
* Rubrik
* [https://cloudcustodian.io/ Cloud Custodian]
* Others?

'''Vendor supplied'''

* AWS Cost explorer
* Azure ...
* GCP 

'''Open Source / Community'''

* cloud custodian ( the Open sourced CapitalOne tool. Anyone using this? Can we get notes from the field? )

'''Other topics'''

* ESG Analysis - '''E'''nvironmental '''S'''ocial '''G'''overnance - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental,_social_and_corporate_governance
* Isn't that just PEST(LE) Analysis? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEST_analysis

'''Governanace'''

* 

'''Cool / Extra Topics'''

* AI / ML for tuning: like Stormforge, anuone used that ? Looks "neat", pretty niche.

== Land Acknowledgement ( Toronto ) ==

Following the [https://www.tdsb.on.ca/Community/Indigenous-Education/Resources/Land-Acknowledgement TDSB's model]:

“We acknowledge we are hosted on the lands of the Mississaugas of the Anishinaabe, the Haudenosaunee Confederacy and the Wendat. We also recognize the enduring presence of all First Nations, Métis and the Inuit peoples”

== References and Notes ==

* [https://www.finops.org/ FinOps Foundation]
* [https://blog.sli.do/panel-discussion-moderating-guide/ The Beginner’s Guide to Moderating a Panel Discussion]
* [https://hbr.org/2019/09/what-it-will-take-to-improve-diversity-at-conferences What It Will Take to Improve Diversity at Conferences]
* [https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS46895020  IDC Spending on Public Cloud IT Infrastructure Surpasses Spending on Traditional IT Infrastructure for the First Time in the Second Quarter of 2020]