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Posted to Facebook September 21 2023

@JustinTrudeau
Let me make one thing very clear: Transphobia, homophobia, and biphobia have no place in this country.
We strongly condemn this hate and its manifestations, and we stand united in support of 2SLGBTQI+
Canadians across the country you are valid and you are valued. 18:53 20 Sept 18.1M Views'


Ursula Comardi
So this is our disgusting PM calling the parents who protested for their children homophobic, transphobic and biphobia!! šŸ˜ 
Really Justin!!! Nice message to send the parents of Canada!!
How is this march homophobic, transphobic, biphobia and hate???
Question: So are the children of these parents also valid and valued??!! Because according to you their parents are not!!

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Ursula Comardi

Plus how vile is it to vilify parents for wanting to protect their children and protect their parental rights!!??


David Thornton Ursula Comardi You know what's vile? Anti-trans folk using a straw man to mobilizing the "critically thinking challenge" to amplify their messaging. It is exploitive. It is disrespectful. And it supports their totalitarian objective. I will not abide.


Ursula Comardi
David Thornton How is it anti trans? I mean used used the copy and paste narrative but you never actually explained why you are calling these parents white supremacist?
Plus answer me this: why kids? Why are you targeting kids?ā€¦ See more
David Thornton
I'd like to address "why kids". That is when a person begins to figure themselves out. That's is when a person learns about what a boy is and what a girl is, and what a woman, is and what a man is, and all that stuff in between. You want to quibble: aā€¦ See more

Reply 3d Ursula Comardi David Thornton That is something that they can learn from home regarding boys and girls, etc. The schools do not need to teach them at such a early age, it's not up to the schools, plus the materials they use to teach are pretty explicit. Plus I also ā€¦ See more Reply 2d Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi protect them from what? Learning there are other people in the world that are different in different ways? Trying to ban the teaching of the existence of a certain group of people because your belief system is against their existence is bigotry. Reply 1d Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett But its not just learning about other ppl, its also learning about sex. They want to copy the US and if you see what books are available to grade school kids-they are pretty sexually explicit. As I said before, they do not need to learnā€¦ See more Reply 1d Edited Ana Casalini Ursula Comardi Well said Ursula! Reply 1d Leslie Buerschaper Ursula Comardi protect their children from what? Inclusive language? Love? Acceptance? Protect them from what? Please clarify. Reply 10h Ursula Comardi Leslie Buerschaper Read all the comments, it's all there! Plus I thought schools already taught love, acceptance, tolerance and inclusion- so what are you talking about??ā€¦ See more Reply 10h Edited Vicki Kellett David Thornton yes Ursulaā€™s arguments are all strawman arguments because the issue is not about public washrooms or the curriculum. Parents already have the right to opt their kids out of the sex ed curriculum. The issue is only about parents seeking tā€¦ See more Reply 9h Edited Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett Yes, I started off with that but you all got off topic. So in actuality your arguments are all strawman and gaslighting! It's not about being able to opt out it's about going behind the parents backs. Schools have no right to do this, anā€¦ See more Reply 5h Edited Vicki Kellett no It was you that flew off on a tangent Reply 5h Edited Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett No my dear, it was you guys Reply 5h Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi nope you went straight into itā€™s about teaching kids about sex and transgender ideology. Parents can opt their kids under 16 out sex ed in the curriculum. Go over your notes. The protests are about parents wanting to be informed about a ā€¦ See more Reply 5h Edited Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett No, you guys went into trans issues and so on! I was on topic from the beginning until we got onto trans issues. Then we started on that. But to be honest m, that is also what the parents don't want their children to be taught at such a yā€¦ See more Reply 5h Edited Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi nope go over your notes it started in your 3rd comment Reply 5h Edited Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett Nope, it wasn't me, I've gone over my notes...but let's be clear here The ā€œ1 Million March 4 Childrenā€ on Sept. 20 is part of a widespread and growing ā€œparental rightsā€ movement targeting inclusive public education. Reply 5h Ursula Comardi Plus how vile is it to vilify parents for wanting to protect their children and protect their parental rights!!?? This is my 3rd comment...I'm still on topic... Reply 5h Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi this is your 3rd comment in my thread. David Thornton How is it anti trans? I mean used used the copy and paste narrative but you never actually explained why you are calling these parents white supremacist? ā€¦ See more Reply 4h Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi yet another example. parents have the right to opt their kids out of that part of the curriculum. Have for a long time. Reply 4h Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett This is David's comment, I am answering his comment....so I rest my case!!! Ursula Comardi You know what's vile? Anti-trans folk using a straw man to mobilizing the "critically thinking challenge" to amplify their messaging. It is exploiā€¦ See more


Ursula Comardi
Vicki Kellett Well apparently schools do not allow parents to opt out.
Chelle Landry spoke in favour of the event, saying schools donā€™t provide parents an opt-out option, or transparency regarding what she calls the ā€œadult-themed contentā€ being taughtā€¦ See more
Vicki Kellett
Ursula Comardi they can opt out in Ontario. Itā€™s called Human development and Sexual health.
In kindergarten they teach about how our bodies change as we grow like loosing your baby teeth.
Proper oral hygiene.ā€¦ Se
Grade 1 they learn the names of all their body parts and our senses
Grades 2 stages or growth from a baby to a teenager.
proper hygiene like washing hands and using tissues
Grade 3 they cover bullying and visible differences like eye hair and skin colour.
Grade 4 itā€™s the emotional changes during puberty and the need for increased personal hygiene such as bathing more regularly
By Grade 5 they cover body image and puberty and how the body begins to change like periods and sperm production. Sexual orientation.
Because that is the age it begins in a lot of kids. I got my first period when I was in grade 5.
Grade 6 itā€™s the physical


David Thornton

Ursula Comardi "if the majority of parents...". What if I told you the majority of parents are idiots? 50 percent of them are below average šŸ¤£. What if I told you most parents don't actually do a good job of bringing up their kids. God knows I'm muffinā€¦ See more

David Thornton

Vicki Kellett it is my understanding that the instigators and organizers of this March are white supremacists. I could be wrong. The whole idea that these kids need protection is wrong in my opinion. Protection from being transformed into the oppositā€¦ See more

Vicki Kellett
David Thornton here here!
David Thornton
Ursula Comardi what if the school left it for the child to decide?
David Thornton
Ursula Comardi Oh ffs , looking both ways before crossing the road confuses kids! We should definitely leave that to the parents. šŸ¤£
Vicki Kellett
David Thornton I do believe there is a conspiracy theory like belief that ā€œnormalā€ kids are being ā€œturnedā€.
A belief system that doesnā€™t allow for non-Heteronormative canā€™t accept it is natural for a child to be different. They are the camp of nurtureā€¦ See more
Ursula Comardi
David Thornton I'm really not understanding the white supremacy bit...I'm really not.
I do agree it is messy BUT school and parents need to work together and against each other. And when school withhold information about kids from their parents is woā€¦ See more
Vicki Kellett
Ursula Comardi
The parental rights movement today is fuelled in the United States by Moms for Liberty and has spread into Canada.

According to the Southern Poverty Law Centre, Moms for Liberty is an anti-government and right-wing extremist organizationā€¦ See more Reply 3h Edited Leslie Buerschaper I read the comments and trans ideology and sex is NOT what they are teaching. They are teaching inclusion and acceptance of every one because bullying and hate still exist.


Leslie Buerschaper
Ursula Comardi protect from what? I ask again.
Ursula Comardi
Vicki Kellett And whats driving this trans inclusion in schools is left extremists!

You know what, you guys believe all you want. ā€¦ See more

Vicki Kellett
Ursula Comardi there arenā€™t loads. A long term medical study has shown only 1% of trans detransition and the majority of them is not because of regret, but because of the harsh realities of living in a world where they are not accepted. They find it too difficult.

Reply 2h Edited Ursula Comardi Leslie Buerschaper My answer is in the comments. And I say again, isn't tolerance, inclusion, acceptance already being taught in school???ā€¦ See more Reply 2h Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett You might want to dig a little deeper my dear! Reply 2h Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi provide your examples Reply 2h Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett In his continuing search for detransitioners, MacKinnon spent hours scrolling through TikTok and sifting through online forums where people shared their experiences and found comfort from each other. These forays opened his eyes to the onā€¦ See more Reply 2h Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi my information came from the same researcher and is also from Reuters. Entitled : Why Detransitioners are Crucial to the Science of Gender Care. Itā€™s about providing proper supportive care. Donā€™t cherry pick. Reply 2h Edited Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett Link. And that doesn't take away from what I've said. ā€¦ See more Reply 2h Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi reuters investigates, special-report, usa-transyouth-outcomes Reply 2h Leslie Buerschaper Ursula Comardi it has gotten out of hand because you are SO misinformed. The schools arenā€™t teaching about gender identity, they are just including all identities in how and what they teach. If you think kindergarten kids are being taught about sex, yoā€¦ See more Reply 2h Leslie Buerschaper Ursula Comardi you are so far out of line and so ignorant itā€™s embarrassing. You know why you didnā€™t find so many trans kids in last 40 years? Because it was illegal and they were scared! I thought you were better at being educated and understanding diā€¦ See more Reply 2h Ursula Comardi Leslie Buerschaper I'm misinformed. I'm going to stop you right there. šŸ¤£ It has gotten out of hand because you keep asking the same questions and use the same talking points. ā€¦ See more Reply 2h Ursula Comardi Leslie Buerschaper I'm so far out of line...really?? I am not the ignorant one here. You guy just love those buzz words don't you!ā€¦ See more Reply 1h Leslie Buerschaper Ursula Comardi prove they didnā€™t exist. Thatā€™s crap. I know people who were trans 40 years ago. You say you donā€™t need to explain yourself because you canā€™t. Reply 1h Ursula Comardi Leslie Buerschaper Show me links. So in high school you know trans kids...really.. good good for you. But I'm not talking about teens I'm talking about 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 etc year old! But yes, you're right again!! Reply 1h Edited Leslie Buerschaper Ursula Comardi OMG. Convenient. Youā€™re being ridiculous. You think I have trans, gay and lesbian friends just because I might need them to prove you wrong. And Iā€™m not talking about teens either. You really donā€™t have a clue. Trans people know when thā€¦ See more Reply 1h


Danny Galaga What's happened? What protest? Reply 4d Ursula Comardi Danny Galaga There was a peaceful protest in Canada called the 1 Million March 4 Children. It was parents advocating for Canadian childrenā€™s rights against unnecessary gender ideologies. The government without any permission from parents has given sā€¦ See more Reply 3d Danny Galaga Ursula Comardi šŸ˜ž Reply 3d Joanie Harper Ursula Comardi I don't get the big deal about pronouns. And I don't understand the uproar about teaching kids about different types of sexuality. I don't think anyone is "forcing" kids to use different pronouns or identify as transgender. I would susā€¦ See more Reply 2d Ursula Comardi Joanie Harper No, these kids did not hide the truth, they just didn't exist until now. Until this ideology has been pushed in schools. Plus studies have proven that these so called 'trans kids' are not actually trans, they are either struggling/confusā€¦ See more Reply 2d Joanie Harper Ursula Comardi trans people have existed throughout history but we're generally persecuted for it. Reply 2d Ursula Comardi Joanie Harper Not necessarily. The problem with this argument is that you are looking at history with presentism. When you look at writings regarding men dressing as women etc. It does not mean trans. Trans gender term started around the 1950's & 1ā€¦ See more Reply 2d Edited Vicki Kellett Joanie Harper exactly. Reply 1d Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi 14 isnā€™t a young age Reply 4h


Danielle Morley Him, Nicola Sturgeon, Mark Drakeford, Sadiq Khanā€¦ all cut from the same shitty cloth šŸ¤¬ Reply 3d David Thornton May be an image of text that says 'Everyone wear something white WEAR WHITE The official color of the #1millionmarch4children 1 Million March 4 Children ago We are encouraging everyone to wear white identify parents and children t's the color represent innocence. 3. White is the colour to repres.. See more' Reply 3d Ursula Comardi David Thornton What is this? So you don't have anything valuable to contribute just a racist meme, and you want me to take you seriously?! ā€¦ See more Reply 3d Edited Danielle Morley Ursula Comardi Iā€™m just sat here trying to figure out what this has to do with race?!?!? Reply 3d Ursula Comardi Danielle Morley I'm not sure either?! But it happens a lot!? Reply 3d Danielle Morley Ursula Comardi oh wellā€¦ that seems to be par for the course these days. Rather than engage in an adult discussion people throw the racist/Nazi/whatever-phobe name around to try and frighten people into silence. And as a parent, I will defend my right tā€¦ See more Reply 3d David Thornton Ursula Comardi I think I miscommunicared here. I wasn't clear. Let me try again. . I'm not saying you are a white supremacist. The "Million March 4 Children" has conflated several ideologies. The folk who support the March include white supremacist, thā€¦ See more Reply 3d David Thornton Danielle Morley I would go to a rally about school funding, that included Buddhists, Conservative, and Liberals. I don't agree with the rest of the ideology of Buddhist, conservative, or liberals, but 1. They aren't also waving "conservative is the waā€¦ See more Reply 3d David Thornton Danielle Morley after you denounce the intolerables from your ranks, then we can talk. Reply 3d Ursula Comardi David Thornton I did not see white supremacists at the march. I did see a lot of gays and lesbians and parents of course. I also saw a lot of the antifa mixed in with the counter protesters, who I might add where the aggressive ones, chanting "your kiā€¦ See more Reply 2d David Thornton Ursula Comardi "as long as those people don't make a fuss I'm fine." Reply 2d David Thornton Ursula Comardi"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the ā€¦ See more Reply 2d Ursula Comardi David Thornton It's the kind of fuss they are making that's the problem. It's comes across as not wanting to live in peace but more wanting to take over. And i dont think that what is being asked is unreasonable. Women should not be made to feel uncomfā€¦ See more Reply 2d Edited Ursula Comardi David Thornton And I do agree I to have become disappointed. I feel that both sides have good intentions but they are going about it in the wrong way. Because when you look at the core of there concerns all they want is what's best for the children, fā€¦ See more Reply 2d David Thornton Ursula Comardi we're listening to each other aren't we? Reply 2d


David Thornton Why aren't you talking about valid Trans issues? Reply 3d Ursula Comardi David Thornton What valid trans issues? Reply 3d David Thornton Ursula Comardi if you Googled "what persecution do trans people face" , would you believe the results you got? Would you or could filter through the results and decide "trans folk suffer persecution" or "trans folk do not suffer persecution"? I'm curioā€¦ See more Reply 3d Ursula Comardi David Thornton Please trans ppl are the most privileged minority groups! And they are the most hateful. Do you know who the most vulnerable group is...women and girls!! Goggle it!ā€¦ See more Reply 3d David Thornton Ursula Comardi I find it interesting your choice of wide brush. You use a wide brush when characterizing, privileged trans folk, but also a wide brush when characterizing persecuted women and girls. In both groups there are privileged individuals, and ā€¦ See more Reply 3d Ursula Comardi David Thornton It's funny you say you will not march with folk that would curtail the freedom of others. Well that is exactly what the trans community is doing to women. They are trying to erase women. A couple of years ago you coukd define what a womā€¦ See more Reply 2d Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi there are very ugly sides to all groups of people. Reply 1d Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi is that the bee in your bonnet? So the rights of someone elseā€™s kids in another country is just a smoke screen to punish transgender people for making you feel uncomfortable? Reply 1d Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi repost what you just wrote here but substitute the word trans with either ā€œblackā€ or ā€œJewishā€ and substitute the word woman with ā€œpeopleā€ and see how it sounds. Reply 1d Edited Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett It's not a bee in my bonnet! (What an odd thing to say) It's actual facts! Funny you talk about comfort...so lots of girls or women should just be quite and feel uncomfortable so a couple of men can feel comfortable!! Really??!! ā€¦ See more Reply 1d Edited Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett Last time I checked black men or Jewish men are not trying to use women's bathrooms, change rooms, trying to enter women only hospital wards, women's prisons, trying to compete against women in women's sports! No, only trans women are!!!ā€¦ See more Reply 1d Edited David Thornton I find it hard to belive that so many people have suddenly become sincerely concerned with these things. If they were sincerely concerned they would be able to say it was OK when few people were doing it and not talking about it but now more people areā€¦ See more Reply 1d Vicki Kellett David Thornton sounds more like radicalization than concern Reply 1d Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi I am on topic. You talk about rights but your radicalized rhetoric sounds exactly like segregation . Reply 1d Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett How is it radical segregation?? You're ok with separation of sexes when it comes to these things right?? Or would you want to change in front of a man if you went to the gym and used their changing room? No you wouldn't, so how is this ā€¦ See more Reply 1d Ursula Comardi David Thornton Omg, seriously? 1. cis is not a thing!ā€¦ See more Reply 1d Edited Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi Iā€™ve changed in front of men and have used the menā€™s washroom on many occasions. I actually prefer the gender neutral bathrooms. Reply 1d Edited Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett which setting did you change in front of these men? Was it a public change room setting? And so because you've done it therefore all women must do it? Reply 1d David Thornton Ursula Comardiif only we could go out for beers and hash this out. I'm getting tired of typing.. beer would help me in this case. šŸ¤£šŸ» Reply 1d Ursula Comardi David Thornton That would be a lot of fun! I missed you! And we certainly don't talk enough! I have really enjoyed this! šŸ˜šŸ»šŸŒ» Reply 1d Joanie Harper Ursula Comardi the only area that I have an issue with trans women is in sports. Not because they are trans women but because as biologically male, their biology has given their body a structural advantage. Reply 1d Vicki Kellett Joanie Harper Australia has set new guidelines banning trans women from womenā€™s sports if they have already gone through male puberty. If they transitioned before puberty they would still be eligible. ā€¦ See more Reply 21h Edited Vicki Kellett Ursula Comardi a couple of different times yes at a coed Banya. The other times were at a private residence but with some other people including some men I hadnā€™t previously met before. Reply 21h Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett Renee Richards in 1977 in the US Open then nothing until about 2017. So that is a very weak argument! The Workd Athletics banned trans women from competing in March 2023 and good as the sheer number of trans women that were competing wasā€¦ See more Reply 17h Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett So coed and private residence, so not exactly the same thing, now is it!? Reply 17h


Len Janke Wow, strayed off topic here a bit...... so people are not allowed to protest unless it is supported by the Govt and if they do you will be called names, gaslit and then marginalized. Why hardly any coverage of this by MSM? Divide, divide, divide Reply 2d Vicki Kellett Len Janke they can protest but peaceful protest does not include hate speech against marginalized groups. Itā€™s a crime in Canada. Itā€™s a part of our constitution. Reply 1d Edited Ursula Comardi Vicki Kellett How was it hate speech? Reply 1d